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Help me become a real CRAZY FUNDIE ATHEIST parent!
by bohm inhello friends!.
once in a while you hear about fundie atheists, and i have desided to become one.
but i need a bit of advice.. you see, apparently the fundie atheists are as messed up as their worst religious "fundie" counterparts, so i got some expectations to live up to.. i have desided to focus on how i should raise my child, since the religious dickery i hate the most has to do with how children are raised.
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Thanks and Goodbye
by brotherdan ini really do appreciate all the help you guys have given me in this process.
but it's time for me to leave.
it was time for me to leave the wt (at least in my mind) when it became damaging to me.
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brotherdan
All the best for the future.
I agree pretty much with what you say - JWN is not what it used to be. I usually just take a break from visiting the site every so often.
Rather than a place to help JWs/ExJWs it has become a place to tear down each others beliefs - not to mention a PR site for people like Richard Dawkins and the atheistic community.
Anyway - God bless you in your journey ahead.
The Scotsman
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That is brilliant.
An english translation would be good though....
I wonder how the local JWs are reacting - have the org reacted with letters to the congregations.
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Trying to Know God and/or Christ...
by AGuest insolely by means of the pages of the bible... is like trying to know someone based on what's written about them in their high school year book.
while what others write there may say a lot... oh so much is left out.
best way to get to know that person?
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God or Jesus NEVER answer back.
Many would disagree with you.
Many have had prayers answered.
Many have said they have seen little green men from Mars and had cattle abducted by aliens in space ships.
Does this make them right or wrong?
Eh... I was just saying that some would disagree with the comment from 3mozzies.
The discussion of little green men is for another thread I think.
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Trying to Know God and/or Christ...
by AGuest insolely by means of the pages of the bible... is like trying to know someone based on what's written about them in their high school year book.
while what others write there may say a lot... oh so much is left out.
best way to get to know that person?
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The Scotsman
God or Jesus NEVER answer back.
Many would disagree with you.
Many have had prayers answered.
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From Richard Dawkins' Preface to "The God Delusion"
by AK - Jeff inhttp://www.infoamerica.org/documentos_pdf/dawkins10.pdf.
the word delusion in my title has disquieted some psychiatrists who regard it as a technical term, not to be bandied about.
three of them wrote to me to propose a special technical term for religious delusion: relusion.. .
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If you are suggesting I beleive in that then you are mistaken. As usual.
Not at all - just bringing balance to the discussion.
As usual???? You must have me mistaken for someone else....he he he......
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From Richard Dawkins' Preface to "The God Delusion"
by AK - Jeff inhttp://www.infoamerica.org/documentos_pdf/dawkins10.pdf.
the word delusion in my title has disquieted some psychiatrists who regard it as a technical term, not to be bandied about.
three of them wrote to me to propose a special technical term for religious delusion: relusion.. .
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Yes, believing in silent invisible sky people is totally rational.
Yes, just like believing everything came from nothing is totally rational - sheesh....
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The Evolution of the Eye.
by whereami infascinating stuff.. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb9_x1wgm7e.
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Not true at all. I learned that you don't understand biology, chemistry, genetics, don't want to learn them.
Ah - now comes the arrogance. You nothing of me or about me. I do not need to have full understanding of biology, chemistry etc to believe that someone / something made/designed the human eye.
Just like I do not need to understand the full mechanics / details of how my 10 megepixel camera works to KNOW that someone (or a group of people) designed and built it.
God did it....that's easy. It's...comfortable.
Easy??? - do you think so??? I don't think its easy at all. I did not mention God - I merely stated that intelligence existed before the eye did - but your probably right - it probably was God....
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The Evolution of the Eye.
by whereami infascinating stuff.. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb9_x1wgm7e.
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I know. Learning it hard. It's easier to just believe what you want. Keep up the good work.
Your right - learning "can" be hard for all of us. I have learned nothing on this thread and neither have you - which pretty much solidifies my point - debates on this subject are pointless, they very rarely, if ever change someone's pre-position.
And it is not about taking some easy route because I maintain my own beliefs.
To believe the eye evolved without intelligent input - now thats far from easy....
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The Evolution of the Eye.
by whereami infascinating stuff.. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb9_x1wgm7e.
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It's irrelevant what most people think. The camera is inorganic, not self re-producing and isn't combing it's parts with another camera to make new models. Your analogy doesn't make sense and collapses.
The argument makes perfect sense and by stating that a camera is inorganic is irrelevent - the camera exists because an intelligent being created it - simple really. If the intelligence was not there "first" we would have no camera.
Evolution is by no means random.
To deny the basic fact that the premise of evolution is in fact random processes does not help your argument. If not random - what is it? Controlled? If so - who / what is the controller?
If i pick up pots of paint and just through them at the canvas - THATS random. This will produce a very colourful canvas - but it is not going to be a portrait, or a landscape.
But if someone were to take some time, use brushes and use their talent they could produce beautiful artwork - same canvas, same paint - just not random. The key though is this - to produce the beautiful artwork requires understanding, tools and some talent BEFORE the painting is produced.
Anyway - I am breaking my own rule here - "never engage in a creation / evolution debate" - it is uttely pointless. You believe what you want and I will do the same.